Comments on: Canonical opening up, what about Apple? http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/ rebel without a pause Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:20:21 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 12 dogs http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-29753 12 dogs Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:45:22 +0000 http://jonathancarter.co.za/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple#comment-29753 Apple have already got a deal with cups which allowed them to entirely circumvent the gpl by getting it under a commercial license. Redistributing the code once gpl3 comes out is exactly the same to them as when it was gpl2... they still don't have to do a damn thing besides ponying up the cash. Apple have already got a deal with cups which allowed them to entirely circumvent the gpl by getting it under a commercial license. Redistributing the code once gpl3 comes out is exactly the same to them as when it was gpl2… they still don’t have to do a damn thing besides ponying up the cash.

]]> By: Weeber http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-29701 Weeber Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:12:01 +0000 http://jonathancarter.co.za/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple#comment-29701 @kmf: You don't know Apple then... just look at this: "In addition, as the copyright holder of CUPS, Apple Inc. grants the following special exceptions: 1. Apple Operating System Development License Exception; 1. Software that is developed by any person or entity for an Apple Operating System ("Apple OS-Developed Software"), including but not limited to Apple and third party printer drivers, filters, and backends for an Apple Operating System, that is linked to the CUPS imaging library or based on any sample filters or backends provided with CUPS shall not be considered to be a derivative work or collective work based on the CUPS program and is exempt from the mandatory source code release clauses of the GNU GPL. You may therefore distribute linked combinations of the CUPS imaging library with Apple OS-Developed Software without releasing the source code of the Apple OS-Developed Software. You may also use sample filters and backends provided with CUPS to develop Apple OS-Developed Software without releasing the source code of the Apple OS-Developed Software. 2. An Apple Operating System means any operating system software developed and/or marketed by Apple Computer, Inc., including but not limited to all existing releases and versions of Apple's Darwin, Mac OS X, and Mac OS X Server products and all follow-on releases and future versions thereof. 3. This exception is only available for Apple OS-Developed Software and does not apply to software that is distributed for use on other operating systems. 4. All CUPS software that falls under this license exception have the following text at the top of each source file: This file is subject to the Apple OS-Developed Software exception. 2. OpenSSL Toolkit License Exception; 1. Apple Inc. explicitly allows the compilation and distribution of the CUPS software with the OpenSSL Toolkit. No developer is required to provide these exceptions in a derived work." Source: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179 I0 TFAQ M10 P1 Q @kmf: You don’t know Apple then… just look at this:
“In addition, as the copyright holder of CUPS, Apple Inc. grants the following special exceptions:

1. Apple Operating System Development License Exception;
1. Software that is developed by any person or entity for an Apple Operating System (“Apple OS-Developed Software”), including but not limited to Apple and third party printer drivers, filters, and backends for an Apple Operating System, that is linked to the CUPS imaging library or based on any sample filters or backends provided with CUPS shall not be considered to be a derivative work or collective work based on the CUPS program and is exempt from the mandatory source code release clauses of the GNU GPL. You may therefore distribute linked combinations of the CUPS imaging library with Apple OS-Developed Software without releasing the source code of the Apple OS-Developed Software. You may also use sample filters and backends provided with CUPS to develop Apple OS-Developed Software without releasing the source code of the Apple OS-Developed Software.
2. An Apple Operating System means any operating system software developed and/or marketed by Apple Computer, Inc., including but not limited to all existing releases and versions of Apple’s Darwin, Mac OS X, and Mac OS X Server products and all follow-on releases and future versions thereof.
3. This exception is only available for Apple OS-Developed Software and does not apply to software that is distributed for use on other operating systems.
4. All CUPS software that falls under this license exception have the following text at the top of each source file:

This file is subject to the Apple OS-Developed Software exception.

2. OpenSSL Toolkit License Exception;
1. Apple Inc. explicitly allows the compilation and distribution of the CUPS software with the OpenSSL Toolkit.

No developer is required to provide these exceptions in a derived work.”

Source: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179 I0 TFAQ M10 P1 Q

]]> By: kmf http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-29636 kmf Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:20:32 +0000 http://jonathancarter.co.za/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple#comment-29636 Knowing Apple ... they will keep CUPS as open as Possible! Maybe ... this will force big Corporations to make more standards complaint hardware. Remember CUPS used by Solaris/BSD/Linux/AIX etc. Apple Loves Open Source ... http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L475 ... but I really think they want Printer Support on the iPhone ;) Knowing Apple … they will keep CUPS as open as Possible!
Maybe … this will force big Corporations to make more standards complaint hardware. Remember CUPS used by Solaris/BSD/Linux/AIX etc.
Apple Loves Open Source … http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L475
… but I really think they want Printer Support on the iPhone ;)

]]> By: Weeber http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-29587 Weeber Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:09:18 +0000 http://jonathancarter.co.za/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple#comment-29587 After listening to the reasons why LP isn't open source i think is better to not open it. But some part of it can be opened to help the community in some aspects. Regarding to CUPS, I didn't knew that Apple purchased it. Is not a good news for me, I don't like Apple in what patents is concerned. Luckily CUPS is GPL so if something go wrong with Apple relicensing it (to a BSD license so they can close it and forget about the open version) and closing it we always can count with the community to follow the work. After listening to the reasons why LP isn’t open source i think is better to not open it. But some part of it can be opened to help the community in some aspects.

Regarding to CUPS, I didn’t knew that Apple purchased it. Is not a good news for me, I don’t like Apple in what patents is concerned. Luckily CUPS is GPL so if something go wrong with Apple relicensing it (to a BSD license so they can close it and forget about the open version) and closing it we always can count with the community to follow the work.

]]> By: Vincent http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-29574 Vincent Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:23:24 +0000 http://jonathancarter.co.za/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple#comment-29574 Well, obviously, Launchpad can't be open-sourced yet, as it's goal is to be a central place for bug reports. If it'd be open-sourced and everyone would set up their own Launchpad server then bug reports would be scattered all over the intarwebz. First they'll need to build something that lets all single Launchpad installations and other similar tools communicate with each other. Well, obviously, Launchpad can’t be open-sourced yet, as it’s goal is to be a central place for bug reports. If it’d be open-sourced and everyone would set up their own Launchpad server then bug reports would be scattered all over the intarwebz. First they’ll need to build something that lets all single Launchpad installations and other similar tools communicate with each other.

]]> By: Apple compra CUPS… paura della GPLv3? « pollycoke :) http://jonathancarter.org/2007/07/12/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-29570 Apple compra CUPS… paura della GPLv3? « pollycoke :) Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:22:01 +0000 http://jonathancarter.co.za/canonical-going-more-open-and-apple#comment-29570 [...] La GPL3 non deve piacere ad Apple, che ha pensato bene di comprare un progetto opensource, promettendo di mantenere lo stato di fatto. Anzi, promettendo di non cambiare lo stato di fatto, che è diverso. Una lettura della vicenda simile alla mia, ma basata sulla difesa di brevetti Apple in materia di stampa, è quella che fa Jonathan Carter. [...] [...] La GPL3 non deve piacere ad Apple, che ha pensato bene di comprare un progetto opensource, promettendo di mantenere lo stato di fatto. Anzi, promettendo di non cambiare lo stato di fatto, che è diverso. Una lettura della vicenda simile alla mia, ma basata sulla difesa di brevetti Apple in materia di stampa, è quella che fa Jonathan Carter. [...]

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